Part 6

We are... Kindred?

nightpool
yoooooo
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When last we left off, Ran just brutally turned down a maiden's purehearted confession of love. Now Ran's going to visit miss Sakura.
Miss Sakura is the only being of significance in the whole universe apparently.
nightpool
well to be fair she maybe set this up somehow
if we're presuming this is a frame-up, there's only one suspect
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Ann: You finished your conversation with Koizumi?

Ran: Hm? Ah, yes.

Ann: Okay. We can talk, then.

Ran: Finally, we can have a proper conversation, miss Sakura! 😍 😍 😍

jjjqance
thisll go well
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Ann: Where's Koizumi, right now?

Ran: (Ugh, why does she have to care so much about the class president.)

Ran: She should still be up on the observation deck. She said she wasn't going to come down until later.

Ran, god, i cannot believe you still aren't genre-aware-realizing that you are being set up for the discovery of her dead body right now.
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Ann: Did you tell her not to come back?

Ran felt Ann tighten her grip on Ran's hand, to an uncomfortable level of force. There was an expression on Ann's face that she'd never seen before.

Ran: (Miss Sakura's mad at me? Over someone else??)

yes, ran, ann has more friends than you now
you need to get over this

Ran: Miss Sakura, why do you care so much about Koizumi? She's an outsider!

Ran: Our relationship isn't something as simple as just lovers, it's the kind of relationship where no outsider can possibly interfere with-

oh ran this is going to go well

Ran: Miss Sakura, please don't pay any more attention to other people, from now on.

RAN
ann: oh god oh fuck i've made a terrible mistake letting her in my room haven't i
Ann stands her ground.

Ann: Ran, I don't have any memories. Right now, it should be obvious who exactly is 'important' to me, and who is an 'outsider' to me. I hope you can understand that.

nightpool
ran what the fuck
who writes people like this
jjjqance
ran this is not how to form healthy relationships
what if she drove the previous ann to suicide by being so controlling
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RAN GOES BERSERK INSTANTLY

Ran: I don't understand, no! All I understand is that Ann should treat me the way I treat her, and be the same to me as-

nightpool
hmm
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Ann tells us to cut it out.

Ann took Ran's other hand with her own other hand.

Ann: Ran, calm down.

Ann: Ran, you know that I'm not admonishing you. You're aware that you're just needlessly making a scene, too, don't you?

Ran calms down.
Honestly, probably more because miss sakura is holding BOTH my hands i'm so lucky than, y'know,
listening to a word ann is saying.
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Ran apologizes to Ann for being unreasonable.

Ran: I'm sorry, miss Sakura. I shouldn't demand that the current you hold any sort of extreme feelings for me at the moment.

Ran: I was wrong. I'll go apologize to the class president too later.

see, ran can TOTALLY be sane! she just... needs a few moments to, y'know. control her inner yandere.
nightpool
lmao go apologize right now idiot because she's dead
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Ran: I'll figure out what's going on and fix your memories, I swear. I just... I'm just feeling terrible, miss Sakura. I can't bear the fact that you don't remember me anymore...

Ran's anguish reflected itself in Ann's eyes, but Ann seemed at a loss to help Ran.

Ann: I'm sorry. Is there anything I can do for you?

Ran: ...Miss Sakura used to pat my head when I cried, before. She'd rub my head until I stopped crying...

Ran: Miss Sakura, can you help me?

APOLOGIES SECOND
HEADPATS FIRST
THIS IS THE RAN IBUKI LIFESTYLE
Benedict
oh my god, ran. zero to sixty over here, huh
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Ann looked down at her hands, and hesitated. She knew that all Ran was really looking for was Ann Sakura's face.

But she still nodded, and gently pulled Ran down to lie on her lap.

Then, she took her hands and stroked Ran's head. Ran let her eyes close, and let the sounds of the sea and wind fill her ears.

nightpool
woof
ran, we need to have a talk about your coping mechanisms
and your definition of personhood
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ran: i don't listen to people whose names don't start with ann and end with sakura, sorry. fuck off.
Fadetoblack.
When we fade out, we're back in our dorms. Sai greets us.
jjjqance
also ann u need to not enable this behavior!!!
not that it's ur fault
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Sai: Hm? You came back real quick. I thought you might have decided to sleep over in Ann's room or something.

Sai: What, did you get dumped by Ann?

Ran: HOW DARE YOU IMPUGN US. SWORDS AT DAWN, VILLAIN. TO THE DEATH.

Ran: No, I just thought that maybe you'd still be swimming and I could have the room all to myself for a while.

ran you are such a giant jerk
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Sai: Unfortunately for you, I expected that you'd definitely get dumped, which was why I chose not to go swimming, and instead waited at the dorms to comfort you!

Ran giggled at that. Being around Sai Yano was relaxing- no two ways about it.

Ran: Anyways, now that we've drawn lots, a death could occur at any time, right?

Ran: It doesn't feel any different from usual, though.

Sai: Well, everyone's used to it, now. What were you imagining, exactly?

Ran: Well, I dunno, something like, everyone being very tense, making sure nobody can sneak up on them, being super jumpy about any unexpected noises, that sort of thing?

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Sai: Sounds like Battle Royale.

Ran: Yeah, a bit.

Sai: Hey, if you're still anxious, you could go look around the dorms for a while yet. Night's still young.

Sai: Plus, there was that one time Asakura drew herself as the culprit and killed herself. Who knows, maybe if you go looking you'll find her dangling from the rafters somewhere or other.

nightpool
strike 2
god I wonder if the confession was a complete setup on Koizumi's part
her stats do not suggest it, but
there are at least two plausible suspects if she turns up dead.
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For some reason, when Sai said that, Ran felt a brief pulse of pain from her solar plexus. But it passed in an instant.

Ran: Wow, so someone actually did try that. So, Asakura was the culprit, and Asakura herself was also the victim?

Sai: Yeah, that case was so stressful for Tama-chan. Though in the end she was the one who saw through Asakura's faked murder scene, and brought Asakura back to life.

Ran: I can imagine how anxious Indou would have been in a situation like that, yes.

Sai: Well, she's pretty fun when she's panicked, too. Anyways, if you're going to go take another stroll, don't stray too far. It's not quite safe in the late nights.

Ran: (Because of the potential that I'll get murdered by a classmate? Or does she mean something else?)

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Ran: Okay.

Sai: And don't forget to take a shower after you're done. After you got drenched by that storm, all I did was wipe you down, you still need a proper shower.

Ran instinctively clutched at her chest with her hands.

Ran: O-oh. G-got it.

Sai: Also, fuck, girl, your titties are massive.

Ran: Who the hell gave you permission to look?!

Ran stood up and immediately left the room.

this fucking VN
i'm not fucking with you that's actually what the game says
jjjqance
that's good news
Benedict
sigh.
sai sigh.
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FREE TIME 2: LET FREEDOM RING
yeah, apparently, there's a second free time segment here
we also get a recall point here as well.
game won't let us go up the stairs to the observation deck, i checked.
can't let us genre-savvy players ruin the mystery setup i guess.
the downstairs option doesn't eat up a timeslot
and has more options for us.
nightpool
I love sai so much
I'm glad we spent our third free time segment with her
Benedict
y'know what confuses me about this setup, moreso than the... how it's even possible, is... what's the killer's incentive to not get caught? to take measures to avoid being seen and try to get away with it?
do they benefit somehow from keeping everyone fooled for longer?
presumably no one wants to actually get away with it completely, or that's a dead friend
nightpool
if we go downstairs we can come back freely? what's downstairs?
Zerovirus
downstairs we have three options
nightpool
huh. no people
Zerovirus
bathroom, kitchen, and what is either a tool storage or a workshop
tool storage eats one time unit.
presumably someone is in there.
nightpool
or just a clue
Zerovirus
also the upstairs rooms are- i labeled them as the two people but that's just whose rooms they are
Benedict
i kind of like how this game saves on environment modeling by just making the map sketch the actual map the player sees
Zerovirus
koizumi at least definitely ain't gonna be in her room because she's suuuper fucking deaaaaaad
nightpool
oh I see. hmm
Zerovirus
so probably other characters are also out and about
i'll check everything that doesn't eat time first
nightpool
good luck.
Zerovirus

Ran hears the sounds of talking and running water from the bathroom, but she can't make out what's being said.

nightpool
I think my vote is toolshed and Tama/Makoto
Zerovirus

She considered getting closer, but decided against it.

Ran: (Listening to other people shower is a bit too perverted.)

i betcha this is all very important timing clue details for tomorrow
koizumi got murdered sometime while we were walking out here
figuring out who was showering, who was where
that's all going to be super important
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Kitchen next.

Ran got a bottle of water out of the refrigerator in the kitchen, and gulped it down.

Ran: (First time I saw Sai, she was taking a drink from the fridge here as well.)

Ran: (Can't believe things have developed the way they have. At least miss Sakura is here.)

Ran finishes the drink and throws the empty plastic bottle into the trashbin.

That's all the non-time-consuming investigateables.
Now it is time to decide where we spend our Snooping Clocks.
nightpool
tool storage seems important
I was thinking makoto/tama just because we've seen the least of them, but Ann is clearly the most important person to nail down timing on
I just don't really want to make ran go back there again
Zerovirus
Ran will put off the decision by visiting the tool shed first!
The tool shed is locked.
nightpool
lmao
we know how to pick locks though so....
Zerovirus
Ran: Luckily, my higher-than-five Alacrity will save me.
Ran: Super lock-picking-no-jutsu, activate.
Ran heads back to the kitchen and uses a pair of scissors in the kitchen to cut a bit of wire lying around into a lockpick.

Ran: This should do it. This is an old-fashioned lock. It'll be easy for me.

The door is opened!
At last! What wondrous secret lies beyond?
A shitload of boxes. And no light.
And a broom. Yee fucking haw.
We've done it, folks.
Zerovirus

The tool shed was full of various kinds of useful things for maintenance. There was no lack of large devices that Ran couldn't even name, as well as plenty of ropes, ladders, etc.

Ran can't find the light switch.
nightpool
make sure to lock it when you leave Ran
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Ran: (I imagine the key's probably with Asakura, normally, since she's responsible for maintenance.)

nightpool
I wonder if us picking the lock here is going to implicate us lmao
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Ran does in fact remember to lock it after she leaves!
nightpool
it would have been funnier if the more optimal play was not to pick it
Zerovirus
Ha ha god I could absolutely see this game doing that
Anyways, that's that segment.
Zerovirus
We lock up the tool shed door and leave.
nightpool
sorry just had to get that out there
Zerovirus
One time segment left!
nightpool
@Benedict thoughts?
Zerovirus
eh, i'm not gonna bother to wait for him to show up. np give me a final verdict.
i wanna push through content faster, my time is valuable 😎
nightpool
okay let's do this
let's go makoto
we're going to make ran have a good time if it kills her
if we need to know where Ann is we can always recall point
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Ran knocks on Tama Indou and Makoto Asakura's shared room. It took a while for someone to answer her.

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It's Tama!

Tama: Ah, Ibuki-san. Good evening!

Ran: Mmh, good evening.

Ran: Wait, it's just you alone here?

Tama: That's right. Asakura-san went with Sakura-san to shower.

nightpool
ah, interesting
we could have snooped around Ann's room while she was absent
definitely gonna recall point that
funny that Ran couldn't recognize her bestie's voice from the shower
Zerovirus
My wireless keyboard ran out of batteries.
nightpool
maybe that's what she meant by perverted.
Zerovirus
LUCKILY I HAVE MY TRUSTY IPAD.
FUCK FIXING THE PROBLEM LET’S JUST MAKE DO
Anyways, translator’s note here:
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Tama’s statement here in the original chinese is ambiguous as to how many people she’s talking about.
The original chinese goes more like ‘asakura and sakura, she went with them to shower’
Where the number implied by ‘them’ is variable.
It might mean that ‘them’ is just the two, asakura and sakura
Or it means that asakura joined a ‘them’ led by sakura, implying three people in the group.
This is an important ambiguity, because Ran’s next line is:

Ran: (So, then, it’s miss Sakura, the class president, and Asakura in the shower.)

Ran assumes that Koizumi is with Ann, since they share the same dorm room, and Ran hasn’t come to the conclusion that Koizumi is dead yet, because in all fairness she has no reason to think so.
nightpool
why not assume Koizumi just stayed in her room?
Zerovirus
I think possibly to accomodate the fact that we could have investigated ann’s room and found nobody there?
nightpool
or she heard 3 ish voices from the showers and didn't specify
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Ran: Miho said that you all took turns showering in pairs, with the pairings based on your dorm assignments, right? Why didn’t you go shower with Asakura?

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Ran: I thought you two were basically a single item. I figured you’d totally go with Asakura and, I dunno, scrub her back for her.

Tama: An item?

Tama: Oh, I do help Asakura-san wash usually, but today I got caught up reading a book, so Asakura-san went by herself.

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Ran: A book? From the library?

Tama: That’s right. Its title is Notes From Underground.

nightpool
I love tama
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Ran, of course, recognized the name. For a while she'd been into philosophical novels like that herself. It really didn't at all seem like Tama's style, though. Ran had trouble imagining it.

Ran: Wow, that's pretty impressive of you. It's a pretty tough book to read, isn't it?

Tama: Yes, but whenever I get confused while reading, I just ask Asakura-san to explain for me. She knows just about everything.

jjjqance
oh i read this once
Zerovirus
i'd never heard of it before now, honestly
nightpool
it's very funny to imagine Tama and Asakura getting all of their murder plots out of famous Russian novelists
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Ran: Mm. Asakura definitely seems like the kind of person that these novels would be suitable for.

Tama Indou laughed lightly, and blushed, a little.

Tama: Ibuki-san, if you have yet to shower, might I suggest we shower together? There are some things regarding Sakura-san that I'd like to speak with you about.

Ran: Oh, sure, absolutely.

Ran: (Excellent. Let's begin deciphering miss Sakura's circumstances by starting with Indou Tama.)

tama: way smarter than ran gives her credit for, frankly

Ran: (I wonder if Indou will scrub my back for me if I ask.)

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Fade to black, then fade back out to hallway.

Ran: (It's about time. Let's go find Indou and prepare to take a shower.)

CHRONO JJJJJJOOOOOTTER
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We're showering!

Ran: The bathrooms are a bit rustic, but still quite nice. And there's some traces of a fragrant smell in the air.

Tama: It's rose fragrance. Every room has some! If Ibuki-san would like, I could go upstairs and get some more.

Ran: Ah- no, it's okay. I don't use this kind of thing usually anyways.

Well, apparently, not really showering so much as we're bathing.
Don't blame me, the words are the same in chinese.
Ran and Tama sit there for a while, kind of awkwardly. Ran isn't sure how to continue the conversation.

Ran: (Damn, what do I say to her? I can't actually ask her to scrub my back, can I?)

nightpool
I feel a charisma check coming
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Tama: Miss Ibuki.

Tama spoke suddenly.

Tama: If there's anything you need my help with, or if you're uncomfortable in any way, please do let me know.

Ran: Eh? Why're you saying that all of a sudden?

Tama: Because I feel like I understand your feelings for Sakura-san, so I just thought- Well, perhaps I'm being presumptious.

Ran: It's fine, you can say what you want to say.

Tama: Ibuki-san, I once had someone like that as well. She was the young mistress of my house. From a very young age I served as her maidservant.

Ran: Maidservant? Seriously? Sounds like a feudal period piece.

Tama: Is that so strange? My parents were also servants of the young lady's household, so naturally I served her as well.

nightpool
lesbian purgatory evidence increasing
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Tama: It's a shame that the earthquake in Yokohama happened later. After that, the young mistress and I were the only ones left. We could only rely on each other to get by.

Ran: What? Yokohama? Wait, you said an earthquake?

Benedict
wh- okay yeah she is definitely a ghost
that happened in like the 1920s
nightpool
LMAOOO
me: wow this is a nice subtle way to hint that they're all ghosts this game: shame about that FAMOUS EARTHQUAKE though
Zerovirus
and- actually, fun fact: back during the choice we could have made really early on in the first case, the one where we could have praised Tama's outfit if we had 7 charisma
in that branch, Tama tells you about the fact that she lived through the great kanto earthquake.
i'm... not sure what the dialogue would be here, if we'd already known that.
but that was the piece of evidence on offer in that locked branch.
nightpool
zero has known the whole time!!!
Zerovirus
but now we know anyways so it's kinda moot
i have!!!
i have absolutely known the whole time!!!!
by the way, when the game told us that about tama, ran updates her notes.
Benedict
what the fuck, chrono jotter
Zerovirus

Indou Tama's character notes have been updated.

nightpool
of course she does
let us see the nooootes
Zerovirus
(The new addition is just one line: 'Lived through the Great Kanto Earthquake.')
(That's it.)
Benedict
okay, Ran!
i guess when you deal with astromorticians on the reg, this kind of thing doesn't faze you much!
nightpool
not even an emoji..... damn
Zerovirus
not even an emoji!
nightpool
anyway back to the story I guess
Zerovirus
but you know what DOES have emojis??? THE MAIN PAGE OF THE JOURNAL HAS ALSO BEEN UPDATED
jjjqance
no theory about how this could possibly be the result of the time-travelling tardigrades, but no, transporting girls through time doesn't match their MO
Zerovirus

what is the class president even trying to dooooo

school's really big, took a stroll around its circumference and now it feels like my feet are all busted up

besides headpats, i wish miss sakura would kiss me too, that'd be the best >.<

Anyways, Ran actually does in fact have a pretty big reaction to this reveal.
nightpool
dang we should have been checking that more frequently
it seems like it gets updated pretty often
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Ran: What? Yokohama? Wait, you said an earthquake?

Ran: And your uniform- could it be that- how could that be possible...

Ran: (Looking at it this way, forget everyone else, there's no way Indou could have lived all the way to this era.)

Ran: (The revival of the dead... No, not even only that.)

Ran: (Miss Sakura, just what the hell kind of place have we found ourselves in?)

Tama: Miss Asakura is a bit like the young mistress, too. But she's unlike her in the ways where she should most be like her, so I constantly worry about her and feel the need to take care of her.

Ran: Uh- Indou, could you be a bit more clear, what do you mean exactly by 'ways where she should be most like her'.

jjjqance
tama seems unfazed by modern tech
nightpool
but she always forgets her phone
and she's bad at checking it or using it
jjjqance
oh wait is that a thing?
nightpool
and has an outdated phone compared to everybody else
flipphone instead of smartphone
jjjqance
yeah make sense someone from the 1920s would have a flip phone
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Tama: I don't know how to put it either. The young mistress has been in a terribly poor state, historically. She's only recently started to get a little better.

Tama lowered her head and lightly bit her lower lip.

Tama: Asakura-san is a lot like how the young mistress used to be, before she got better. I want to help her.

Ran: Mmm...

Ran: Well, I don't get what you mean by 'poor state historically', but nobody would be annoyed that others care about them. You should just do what you want to do.

Tama nodded, and a smile returned to her face.

Tama: I'll do my best. You should too, Ibuki-san! If there's anything you need help with, just ask me.

Ran: Yeah, I will.

Ran: (It's nice that I got to talk to Tama before sleeping. I feel like she's healed all of my exhaustion from today just by talking to me.)

Ran: (I should actually try to get her to scrub my back for me, next time.)

CHRONO JOTTER
jjjqance
wow it's like ran likes all the girls except koizumi
nightpool

13

Benedict
well none of the others have tried to steal her from ann so far
nightpool
interesting to me that Tama thinks Ann is the one who needs support
and it's interesting to hear that Asakura is ... doing poorly, somehow
depressed?
Benedict
oh god, are we in wonder egg priority
nightpool
given what we know, it's interesting that mihu is so focused on graduation
especially since she's the second smartest
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Ran Ibuki slept well. The hot water bath and Ann Sakura's ministrations had taken great effect.

But, there was a certain something outside of the room, that had come to disrupt her hard-won rest.

An eldritch presence continually grew, and a nameless chaos was slowly writhing in the hallways at that very moment.

I bid my own will suffuse into Ran Ibuki's brain, and open her eyes.

I had foregone awakening for so long, it caused my eyes to blur. I laid on the bed, and flexed a finger, and experimentally pulled the legs in.

Ran?: (No problems.)

At an incomprehensibly even rate, the door to the room opened, and I focused my undivided attention on the darkness beyond that threshold.

A pale white form had appeared in the ink-black corridors, from out of nothing. I wasn't able to perceive just how it'd approached the gate.

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I grasped the headboards of the bed with my hands, tense and wary of the being's next moves.

It was massive in size. Its gait was like that of growing plants. From the darkness it penetrated into the room, advancing bit by bit.

Benedict
何 the fuck
nightpool
wow, "its gait was like that of growing plants" FUCKS. that's such a good line
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Soon, its low, quiet mutterings and gibberings seemed to become a mist that enveloped the whole room.

I listened carefully to those quiet whisperings, and finally heard clearly its origin.

It was the sound of astronomical bodies- the sound of stars being born and destroyed in an instant. The cacophony of the universe's endless expansion.

And, the sound of its weeping.

jjjqance
dang. she has good hearing
Zerovirus

I sat up on the side of the bed, and looked towards it. The fierce desire and joy it emanated was like the heart-throbbing joy I felt when I first met Ran Ibuki.

Facing the beloved children of human mothers, we can only be inescapably pulled in.

It dragged its body into the room, its sculpted thorax stooped and bent, staring at me.

Ran???: Who are you?

jjjqance
a new friend
nightpool
I love Ran+ she's my favorite narrator now.
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[This query is one that I should be asking of you
But you have already recognized the more critical confounding matter]

The voice appeared inside my consciousness, in a language which I could understand.

avunvain
holy shit chrono jotter is good.
jjjqance
dang is the eldritch beast saying it wants to know who ran is?
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[I seek but cannot find the memories of Ann Sakura
Causing this fragmented space to seal Ran Ibuki away]

Its speech was seemingly bent to some bizarre rhythm; the phrasings it used were invariably twisted.

avunvain
so ann sakura's memories are the key to why ran ibuki is stuck here...
?
nightpool
no no it's talking to ran's friend/parasite/possessor
avunvain
is the seeking causing the fragmented space to etc., or the memories themselves?
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The organ like a distended eyeball, which apparently served as the being's head, glimmered with inorganic specks of light.

Its heaving back was nearly parallel with the ceiling, and the spherical forms that made up its lower half clung tightly to the ground. Two long dangling arms, thick with muscle, drooped powerlessly to the floor.

I looked towards the upper bunk. Sai Yano showed no signs of waking up anytime soon. Perhaps she couldn't perceive these sounds- or perhaps it wasn't allowing Sai Yano to awaken.

Ran???: What do you intend to do to Ran Ibuki?

nightpool
first take: this is the thing that's trapping the girls here, and it's brought Ran here to help bring Ann's memories back
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[We are...
Kindred?]

Ran???: From the perspective of human motherhood, we are indeed kindred. But I know not from whence you originate. In terms of fundamental nature we may well be quite dissimilar.

avunvain
is that an answer to the question "what do you intend to do"?
Benedict
i just got back and what is happening
chrono jotter what
avunvain
being good
is what
nightpool
yeah its being good
avunvain
so they have... the same origin, the same creator
but possibly dissimilar natures
did ran emanate both of these things from her psyche
Zerovirus
[If in the eyes of human mothers you and I are alike
Then you must surely understand my thoughts and intention]
nightpool
I think it's just saying "we are both dislike humans the same amount, but that doesn't necessarily make us kindred"
Zerovirus

Ran???: I see. Your kind are always like this. Ran Ibuki merely wants to be together with Ann Sakura. Why do you persistently hinder her in this?

avunvain
i guess the "motherhood" talk is what's getting me here...
"Facing the beloved children of human mothers, we can only be inescapably pulled in."
nightpool
what a line btw
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[This is no hindrance
You crave the human mother's beloved child]
In this you are like us]
avunvain
RIGHT?
can i financially support the chrono jotter folks in some fashion
also ok
ran ibuki
has something going on w her mom
doesn't she
nightpool
im waiting to see if they pull the "metaphor all along" card first
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From that statement, it was obvious that it was this being which had brought Ran Ibuki here- and it had no intention to let Ran leave.

Ran???: No matter what your intent is.

Ran???: Trapping Ran Ibuki here, and forcing her to remain by your side, is nothing but a waste of effort.

nightpool
not that I remember/can search up
Zerovirus
buy multiple copies and give it to friends
avunvain
is going to have something going on with her mom
Benedict
so, Ran+ here, has... gotta be either the journal or Ann or both, right?
nightpool
I think mother is just poetic license here
oh the journal makes sense
avunvain
which her
Ann Sakura??
nightpool
i assume Ran
jjjqance
i'm so lost lol
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Suddenly, it leaned its body forward, and its featureless head closed in on me once more.

avunvain
i could see it being ann sakura, honestly
like this thing clearly hasn't built a place where Ran is particularly happy
nightpool
eyeball person, who seemingly built this school, is negotiating with Ran's own pet(?) horror terror
jjjqance
and 'Ran???' is the voice inside Ran, right?
nightpool
and Ran got to solve crimes every day?
nightpool
yeah, that's the thing the game is positioning as some sort of entity that started possessing ran when she fell asleep, that's been with Ran the whole game. we saw some hints of it earlier
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[I understand the laws
Thus, none may forcibly monopolize her]
I have also left for her a path to depart from here]
avunvain
i guess my thinking here is that like
Ann Sakura is, here
surrounded by friends
and no longer in the state that meant Ran Ibuki couldn't save her from her despair
nightpool
that was never the deal though?
wasn't Ann the one saving Ran from despair?
Zerovirus
[Originally I believed that the closest one to her was you
The one who could monopolize her was you]
But in fact you are counted as the most distant from her]
avunvain
well, yeah, that's the thing. Ann saved Ran but Ran ultimately couldn't help Ann
nightpool
also like. if my heaven was eternally saving my lover from despair then probably I think somebody should build me a better heaven.
avunvain
and in fact might've caused her some serious issues by modeling their relationship as
nightpool
tee bee aich
avunvain
"outsiders shouldn't intrude"
Zerovirus
[Only if she slumbers
Or if her brain ceases consciousness]
Or if her soul and physical body are divided]
Can you quietly manifest in the world]
nightpool
it's unclear to me whether that was just Ran lashing out because of insecurity or something more deep rooted
Zerovirus

Its voice wasn't particularly emotional. Perhaps it wasn't attempting to provoke me- it was just expressing something that was a simple fact to it.

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avunvain
ok that "she" suggests Ran, yeah
nightpool
anyway time to immure the weaver in horrible durance beneath the earth I GUESS
avunvain
like you do
Zerovirus

Ran???: At least I've always been by Ran Ibuki's side. I will protect her. And since you've constructed this stage, you shouldn't disrupt the rules yourself.

Ran???: Stay away from Ran Ibuki, and let her make the decision herself.

Ran???: I will only protect her, and ensure that, when she makes a certain decision or decisions, nobody can stop her.

The being fades away.
avunvain
okay!
we're in ran ibuki's paradise
where her girlfriend doesn't remember her
wonder how that came to pass.
nightpool
well clearly that question vexes our host as well
Zerovirus

It seemed to have nothing more to say. It began retreating- in a way that looked as if it was just rewinding the process through which it sprouted into this room, a film played in reverse.

Bit by bit, it was sucked into the darkness outside the room's door, its featureless head staring at me the entire time.

Or, rather, should I say, towards Ran Ibuki's body.

nightpool
eyeball guy was very focused on what was up with Ann's memories
Benedict
i wonder where eyeball guy stays while not stalking the corridors looking for people to ominously pronounce at
like does he have a dorm room
Zerovirus

After it was swallowed by the darkness, the door to the room closed by itself, without a single sound.

I went back to bed, hugging my shoulders tightly.

I took a deep breath, and hungrily buried myself in the sensations of physical contact with Ran Ibuki. I needed it.

jjjqance
oh yeah! we should probably remember the very beginning where we like, "woke ran up" or something
Zerovirus

Ran???: Good night, Ran Ibuki.

...okay, working theory: this is definitely the notebook, and the notebook is definitely made of our girlfriend's memories.
nightpool
seems right!
Zerovirus

I closed my eyes and returned the body to her.

CHRONO JOTTER
and y'know what
that'll be it for now
Benedict
oh, huh
Zerovirus
i think that is more than enough for us to really fucking digest for a bit
avunvain
so we are
Benedict
that interstitial card is depicting Ran+
avunvain
voring ann sakura
Benedict
with the red eyes
avunvain
in order to survive
huh
Zerovirus
doesn't ann also have red eyes
Benedict
also yeah i was about to say, with the page-eating
avunvain
modern cannibals
Benedict
yeah ann also has red eyes
Zerovirus
also, like
i'm sure you could tell
that i was having
a hell of a time
translating freaky game-master being dude's words
avunvain
zero we legitimately all are
Benedict
a few characters have red eyes but ann stands out as like, obviously-who-it-is
Zerovirus
guy speaks in fucking conundrums
avunvain
that was sick as hell
Zerovirus
there's like five translator's notes i need to do
avunvain
also bought a copy of chrono jotter
Zerovirus
for cases where certain words didn't really translate fully
avunvain
who else wants a copy of chrono jotter
Zerovirus
i screencapped every single bit of freaky pale tree eyeball guy's words so i could retranslate them later if i needed to
Benedict
i'm of the same mind with nightpool here
like a lot of cool shit is going on but i really hope there's some diegetic element to the whole supernatural situation here
and it's not All A Dream or whatever
avunvain
maybe an allegory?
(allegorier, allegoriest)
Benedict
oh it's gory all right
Zerovirus
there are a lot of things i want to say but i cannot say any of them without couching them in comparisons to endgame umineko spoilers
umineko has fucking poisoned my brain and soul
nightpool
I can't tell if All A Metaphor or It's All Purgatory would be worse.... there gotta be some stakes here that aren't death
Benedict
a slightly later, more complicated form of death?
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nightpool
well I guess that's just me anticipating "it's better to accept the death and stop putting it off"
which would be... bad! there are other ways to take It's All Purgatory that aren't that bad
Benedict
ugh, yeah
could easily go in that direction
Zerovirus
so this line- the second line, an alternative translation might be ‘i seek but cannot find the memories of ann sakura thus, i have no recourse but to seal ran ibuki in this broken world’
i’m not sure to what degree the being is taking credit for this sealing- but given that ran??? seems to be assuming the being is responsible, it’s probably indeed the case.
Zerovirus
Here, obviously, it’s not clear if ‘human mothers’ is right- it’s not obvious whether the term is a plural, a category, or a formal title for one specific being
this is a recurrent problem in this dialogue. What is the ‘human mother’ or mothers?
is it one individual, a conceptual class, or what?
Zerovirus
‘Recognized’ here is also a bit of a fudged translation. It could also alternatively be ‘you have been enlightened with regards to the big question’ or something- the word used here has connotations of sacred revelation and extreme significance.
Zerovirus
Like, here- ran says ‘从人类母亲的角度来讲‘- from the perspective of (human mothers as a category / human mothership / The Human Mother, the specific individual)
it’s such a fucked up and intentionally ambiguous phrasing, on the verge of being grammatically incorrect even
Zerovirus
now, leaving the realm of translator’s notes and into speculation: what does this dude mean, ‘monopolize her’? it’s pretty sure that ‘her’ means ran here. (Also, note that the word ‘monopolize’ her is a word that has romantic overtones- like, monopolizing someone in the sense that you’d want to monopolize your lover.)
but why would ran’s monopolizability be a critical factor such that it needs to be protected by the laws of the gameboard?
Zerovirus
My read of this, with the context of the whole scene, is, the being is saying, ‘we are both defined by our obsessive desire to be the being who is closest to ran ibuki.’
and then the rest of the conversation is them strutting what they’ve done for ran.
Ran???: ‘i’ve protected and watched over her for years, and let her consume my flesh to keep her whole’
Tree Guy: ‘yeah well i built her a whole heaven’
and then they both stinkeye each other.
it’s basically a highschool romcom drama but between eldritch beings.
avunvain
yep
marzipanWhale
I can't use the "Mark as archived" feature in Discord in an archived thread, so posting to unarchive
lurina
It's lame that extending the archive time is a nitro-only feature.